Monday, February 21, 2005

Can We Solve Sex Related Problems in the Military?

Recently there have been a spate of incidents reported by the press concerning supposed sexual abuse and sexual misconduct by our Armed Forces. An old Gunnery Sergeant I once had told me not to complain about a problem unless I was prepared to find a solution to it. So that is what I want to do. I ask you to assist me.

In response to a comment I received on my post "Sex Assaults on Military Reported Abroad", I decided to explore the issue of sexual harassment and sexual assault in the military. We know it happens, but why does it happen? What are the underlying causes for it? How can we prevent it?

Deanndra commented about women who are sexually approached or "violated" by men they are drinking with:

"All I'm saying is that things like this can really happen, even with people you trust."
She recognizes human nature for what it is - sex is a basic human urge that must be satisfied. For some the urge is very strong. The reality is everyone in the military is a human being. So why aren't the differences between men and women being accounted for? Could the new, more sensitive military be the reason for this happening? Could we be victims of social experimentation and "re-education"?

This controversy is nothing new. In November of 1997, James H. Anderson, Ph.D. of the Heritage Foundation wrote a piece entitled, Boot Camp or Summer Camp? Restoring Rigorous Standards to Basic Training, which discussed these issues at length. In his article he suggested that Congress pass legislation to regulate and reform some of the gender issues that negatively affected the Armed Forces. In it he acknowledged that even though the military has addressed the sexual question ad nauseum, the problem still exists.

According to the Army, the answer is leadership. Defining predatory sexual abuse and harassment as a "leadership deficiency," however, begs the question of why leadership broke down in the first place. Moreover, the Army first publicized regulations against sexual harassment in 1981. The services all announced "zero tolerance" of sexual harassment in the aftermath of the Tailhook scandal. "Since then," as the Army's Senior Review Panel Report observes, "numerous policy memoranda by the Secretary of Defense, the Secretary of the Army, and the Army Chief of Staff have emphasized that sexual harassment will not be tolerated and that successful mission accomplishment can only be achieved in an environment of mutual respect, dignity, and fair treatment." Despite such unequivocal policy statements, recruits have been abused by drill instructors and have engaged in sexual misconduct with other trainees.

Instead of fixating on "leadership" as a panacea, the military forces should consider the gender-integrated environments within which they expect their leaders to perform. As James Webb has observed, "No edict from above will ever eliminate sexual activity when men and women are thrust together at close quarters." This fact explains not only the problems in basic training, but also the high pregnancy rates aboard Navy ships.

Perhaps it's the reason for mud wrestling as well. Anderson also suggests that tougher standards in military basic training or boot camp, and rescinding the failed policy of gender integration in basic training and pure combat environments would go far to instill greater discipline, and be a partial answer to the problem. He sights the US Marine Corps' historic success with its non gender-integrated approach to recruit training.

Transforming civilians into disciplined military personnel is complicated enough without injecting a sexual dynamic into the equation. The Marine Corps' commonsense decision to keep the sexes apart during basic training has concrete advantages over gender-integrated training. Specifically, it:

• Eliminates the potential for predatory sexual abuse of female recruits by male drill instructors.
• Reduces the risk of misconduct among trainees. As explained by Secretary of the Navy John H. Dalton, keeping the sexes apart "gives new and vulnerable recruits the opportunity to focus on Marine standards of behavior without the unwanted stress of gender differences they would face in a gender-integrated boot camp."
• Provides female drill instructors as positive role models for female recruits.

"As soon as they get off the bus, we give them someone they want to be like," explained Lt. Col. Angie Salinas, commander of the female 4th Recruit Training Battalion. As Gen. Charles Krulak, commandant of the Marine Corps, emphasized last April,

"I've talked to women down at recruit training and they said in no uncertain terms we want to look up to a role model that we can identify with. We want to look up and see the battalion commander is a woman. We want to see the drill instructor that they someday want to be, to be a woman. We'll see enough guys in the next four years or 40."

Marine Private Sara Turner offers a revealing perspective on the contrast between Army and Marine basic training. First, she enlisted in the Army and went through gender-integrated training. Then, after completing her obligation to the Army, she joined the Marine Corps. In comparing the two experiences, she asserted that, during Army basic training, there was "more tension between males and females. In your free time you'll be trying to get your gear all high and tight, and sometimes you'll get unwanted attention, men wanting to talk to you." At Parris Island, one of the Marine Corps' two boot camps, she found the standards higher and the situation a "lot better."

If you are truly interested in this subject, and refuse to be a victim of the mainstream media's hype. I recommend you take the time to read his entire article. I agree with most, if not all, of what he has to say. Take the time to get this discussion going with people you know. Then write your representative in Congress and tell him/her what you think.

16 comments:

warriorjason said...

I sure the hell hope that the Marine Corps keeps bootcamp gender seperate. It is not about being "PC" it is about truning a lazy spoiled 18 year old into a mature adult able to bring death and destruction down on another human being. This is not an easy task.

Zeke said...

Amen warriorjason.
I'm an Army grunt myself, so naturally this site appealed to me.
I think the problem as stated is a 2 part issue. #1 soldiers are people #2 there are women in the military.
I'm not saying that women don't have a place in the military, but lets look at some things.
#1 Standards in the military have been lowered dramatically so as to allow females to pass. Thats how forts like "Relaxin Jason" get their names.
#2 Standards specifically for females are really low. Correct me anyone because I am not positive, but to get into bootcamp, women have to do one push-up? In the Navy stretcher carry is now a four man thing because most women couldn't do the 2 man. If we have to have women in the military, then they should be held to the same standards. Without lowering those standards.
#3 The placement of women in the military. More and more we are seeing women in the combat envireonment. This is a distraction and a hinderence to our military. It is human/male instinct to protect females. It is. Therefore we have males doing things they normally wouldn't do to protect females. Taking risks that shouldn't be taken. Not doing their own job.

I can go on and on, thats the problem, this is getting too long. In my personal opinion, women just don't belong in combat situations......everything else is a bit more touchy. maybe I will write my congress rep.

Deanndra said...

Repeat after me:

I'm not trying to start a fight here...I'm not trying to start a fight here.

I'm a woman in the military. I started in the Air Force reserve, and just recently transferred into the Army National Guard. Yesterday was actually my 3-year mark. And, while I admire your enthusiasm Zeke, and even to a certain extent agree, I feel that I must clue you in on a few things here.

First off, to get into AF BMT, I can't remember even having to do a push up. Luckily for me, I was trying to workout somewhat before boot camp. I've never been fat, and for my small frame, am quite muscular. But halfway through BMT, when we had our PT test, it was hard. Because of my age, I was required to do something like 40 push-ups in 2 minutes. Maybe you'll think this is an excuse, or maybe you're just not aware. But women are not built the same as men, which is honestly why the standards were lowered. While you have pecs, we have breasts. The muscles you build in your abs, we don't have that ability, same as the legs. Unless of course, we use steroids...or really want to work at ruining our "girly figure". My point is, that I know there are some overweight, lazy women in the military. I'm good at admitting that. I know there's a lot of pencil-whipping that goes on to allow them to stay in (trust me, I witnessed it myself). But the majority of women who were in my AF unit worked out regularly to keep fit in case of deployment. I, myself, did not fit into this category. Working out is the devil!!! :-) I have no plans to work out and drag myself out of bed any earlier than absolutely necessary. Although, if faced with deployment, I'd sure be changing that around. I hope that takes care of the "lowered standards" part.

Next, while it is in men's nature to protect women, it is in a woman's nature to protect anyone. If it were between me and John Doe to take a bullet, I'd choose me, with no second thought. And maybe that's just me. But I can safely say after being in a car accident several weeks ago, that it is in my nature to always protect others. But we're a distraction? Because you feel sympathy and a need to protect? Do you not protect also the innocent children over in Iraq? Are they a distraction also?

Don't get me wrong. I somewhat understand your argument here. Really, I do. I rarely take a female stance on anything, because I hate almost all females in general. I'm not into that prissy ass crap. However, I think that sexual allegations and such have nothing to do with women being a distraction. Look at our prison system. In an all-male prison, there are no females. And what happens in prison? I'll give you a hint...don't drop the soap. So who's the distraction there? I'm more inclined to believe that males find testosterone itself to be a distraction.

Lastly, unfortunately, the unit I was in with the AF did not allow me to deploy (I was non-deployable). I have tried like hell to go for the last 2 years, only to be told that I couldn't. Now that I'm working hard in school, I'd rather not go. But I tell you what, I'm just as willing to fight for freedom as any man out there...regardless if that man finds me to be a distraction, or decides to talk to my breasts instead of me. If I want to fight, give me a gun. If you find my beauty a distraction, or feel a need to protect me, then I suggest you just sit back and watch. I don't need protection. I'm just as good as any man out there when it comes to protecting my own life. If you want to "protect" me as a member of your unit, then fine. But if it's just due to the fact of my alleged "inferiority", then don't bother. I can shoot a weapon. And if I don't have one, I know where a males balls are located. I can do just fine.

And just to clarify, I am not a feminist. I'm a republican. I just believe that if a woman chooses that as her path in life, then who are you to say it's not right? Are we telling you that you shouldn't be there because of your hair color or something? What if you dyed your hair blonde, when it's really black? That would be a distraction too. So, I'm really not one of those "bra-burning" feminists. I just want to be accepted in the military, because I'm there for the same reason you are.

And I pose an interesting question for you now. What do you think about homosexuals in the military? Should they be allowed? Or would they also be a distraction?

I really am not trying to cause an argument here. ;-)

TBone said...

Deanndra,

I respect you and women like you; but you have to know that for every one of you there are ten more women who don't have your attitude. The warrior spirit is not necessarily reserved for men.

The problem isn't in the heart; it's in the body. Women aren't physically equal to men. Sure there are a few "manly" women and even some world class athletes in the service, but for the most part they are an anomoly. The majority of women can't carry enough, fast enough, and long enough to keep up with men; and that is a liability in combat. I'm not talking about fighter pilot kind of combat; I'm talking about six-days-straight with no sleep carrying an 80 pound rucksack kind of combat. Hell, just carrying around Ranger Body Armor, full combat load of 5.56 and 9mm, two frags, and some other essential items is heavy enough. Add a mortar base plate, or rounds for a heavy machine gun and your ass is tired after a few hours. Imagine 6 adrenaline filled, sleepless days and nights?

Then throw in the sexual aspect of it. If you and I were in a hide site (a hole in the ground we had to dig in the middle of the night) watching over an objective for about a week; you and I would have to piss and shit in a bag together. There would be no privacy time. I would see everything you have. Would that embarrass you? Now, I am married and certainly no pervert, but if you looked half-way decent (dirty or not) I would be thinking about you sexually. How could I not, seeing how you are exposing yourself to me on a daily basis? It's not because I am a bad man...just that I am a man. God intended it to be that way, otherwise we wouldn't have the urge to procreate. So once again nature is going to affect the mission. A straight man is not going to look at another man and find him sexy. The prison thing you were talking about is like comparing apples and oranges. Most prison rape scenarios are about power and domination primarily, and then sex if the rapist is locked up for years. Not the same animal.

Bottom line is women should be women, and men should be men. No one should discriminate against women just because they are women. But in some circumstances women and men should not be integrated. Combat (and basic training for that matter) is one of them. Gasoline and diesel fuel are both combustible, but you wouldn't mix them together in the same tank. It doesn't make one fuel inferior to another necessarily, just different. I think the same applies to men and women in this case.

Deanndra said...

TBone, I'm astounded by your honesty, and even somewhat intrigued and inclined to agree.

Yes, women are physically inferior to men. I can admit to that. I can't carry what a man can. And I do see what you're saying about combat. That would be rough. And even with how you described it, I'm not sure I could do it. But I do know that my passion to fight for our country would probably somehow intervene, and give me energy and motivation. The question is, would that be enough? Probably not. But I'd still like to fight.

As far as the being exposed in a hole or something, hey, I'll pee when I'm on the phone, take a crap, even shower. I don't care. Phobia of people seeing my body parts left when there were group showers (of course, femles only) in boot camp. I'm not saying at first I wouldn't be a little gun-shy. But obviously, if I had to pee bad enough, that wouldn't matter anymore.

I applaud the point you made on here. Again, I'm really not a feminist. Women aren't quite equal to men physically. I'm not dumb enough to actually think I could lift as much as a man can. All I'm saying is I wish the world could find a happy-medium somewhere along the lines of men not feeling like the had to protect, but women still being able to fight in combat if they wanted to.

I hope no one feels as if I attacked them. That wasn't my intent. Sometimes, my passion can come through as a sort of aggressive statement or something. So if it did, and it offended, my apologies.

zealott said...

In the Army they have two different types of Basic Training, one for combat arms soldiers, and one for non-combative soldiers. Only the non-combative version is co-ed and women can't go into combat arms positions. The men that come up through the non-combative basic don't have the mettle or intestinal fortitude of the men who come up through comtat arms basic. I can't say for the women `cause I've never met a woman who went through combat arms basic.

TBone said...

The difference between USMC recruit training and the Army "Basic/AIT" system is vast. I believe the Marine Corps system turns out a better product.

I also agree that the folks who go to gender integrated basic in the Army are far less disciplined than Infanty "Joes" who do not. Still I believe they are not as disciplined as their Marine counterparts (Rangers and some Airborne troops being the exception). The reason may not be obvious to the casual observer, but I have been in both services and feel qualified to make that observation. I would like to talk about that in my next post. If you have any inputs, please include them in your comments. Thanks!

Deanndra said...

And that's why I want to go through USMC boot camp...just to say I did it. :-)

zealott said...

I've always wondered, do all Marines go to the same boot camp, or is it different for infantry?

I can't argue with you in that Marines are more disciplined. I have served with a few former Marines and while strategically and tactically what we do in the Army Infantry is vastly different than what the Marine Infantry does, they generally catch on rather quickly and do well as Army Soldiers. Mostly there is a lot of animosity in the Army toward the Marines, but you won't find that in me. My squad leader was a Marine and there is nobody I would rather serve under. God bless the United States Marine Corps.

deanndra said...

Hoorah!

-that is the Marine's saying, right? ;-)

TBone said...

Actually it's "ooh-rah" but pretty close. Army say "hooah" and Navy says "hoo-yah". Just bark and you will be good.

Other terms for "Marine":
-Devil Dog
-Teufelhunden (German form of Devil Dog)
-Leatherneck
-Jarhead

Also you must know your General Orders, Birthdate of the USMC, Birthplace of the USMC, First Commandant, etc. by heart or you will be exposed as a fraud. All Marines know those things.

Hey Army guys, do you know the Birthdate of the Army? I didn't think so.

warriorjason said...

Zealott
US Marine recruits go through the same bootcamp no matter what your job is. It is 3 months long. There are only two places that have Marine BC and those are San Diego and Parris Island, SC. The Marine corps does not really divide itself up like the army does with regards to MOS. We don't wear a patch that says your a tanker or box kicker.

TBone said...

Zealott,

In addition to what Jason said...up until about 10 years ago, the USMC didn't even have name tags on their uniform. I like that.

The Army has a bad habit of wanting your whole service record book on the uniform. That is a BAD idea in a combat environment. An interrogator doesn't have to ask you any questions because he knows everything about you already. I think it is also very divisive as well. Unit patches only serve to divide the Army into small cliques...but I will talk about that in Part III of my discipline post.

zealott said...

Badges like Airborne, Air-Assault, Ranger, Combat Infantry, Expert Infantry, Combat-Medical, Ranger, really don't tell an interrogator anything pertinent to that soldier's mission. I think the fewer questions an interrogator asks, the better. The qualifications say almost nothing of a soldier's current MOS (with a few exceptions). A soldier's gear would tell the enemy that soldier's MOS before any patches. Obviously if they have an aid-bag, they're a medic, if they drive a truck, they're a truck driver, if they have a tool bag, they're a combat mechanic, if they have a bunch of explosives, they're an engineer. Unit patches, I wouldn't say, divide the Army into small cliques, an entire division has that same patch. The entire Marine Corps is like only the size of a division.

TBone said...

Zealott,

The Code of Conduct states in Article V: "When questioned, should I become a prisoner of war, I am required to give name, rank, service, number, and date of birth. I will evade answering further questions to the utmost of my ability. I will make no oral or written statements disloyal to my country and its allies or harmful to their cause."

If you are wearing patches you are answering my questions without me even asking questions. For example: What unit is attacking me? Oh, I know...it's the 82nd Airborne division. What's your MOS? Oh, I know...you must be a "special" troop because you are a Ranger and are Airborne. Combat Infantryman's badge...oh you have killed my comrades before haven't you? Since you are "special", I think I should give you some extra special attention. Get the point? The less an interrogator has to work with, the less likely he will be able to take the time to completely figure out what's going on before your information becomes perishable and the less information he will have to compare with other intelligence collection efforts.

I was in the 82nd once upon a time...if you are an airborne soldier and see a guy wearing a black beret you automatically assume he is "a dirty nasty leg" and a slacker. When we could wear a patrol cap, you had to get close enough to see his patch before you made that assumption. If there were no unit patches, you couldn't make that assumption unless you talked to him. There would be no generic assumption of worth because everyone would be a soldier at first glance.

A Marine is a Marine...even if he is a clerk, he is expected to pull his weight in combat. If a Regimental HQ decides to use their clerk as an infantryman...so be it. The Marine will move out and do his duty. Every Marine goes to a basic infantry school prior to going to his MOS school. Infantry guys continue at the School of Infantry and learn more about the MOS...but every Marine is a basic rifleman.

Concerning the size of the USMC: The Marine Corps has a current end strength of 172,600 troops (154,712 enlisted and 17,888 officers)...a bit larger than a Division by far. The Marine Corps has its own land component (infantry, tanks, artillery, CS, & CSS), air component (rotary and fixed wing), and now SpecOps component (separate from Force Recon) making it a fairly sizeable force. There has never been a need to make distinctive unit insignia for the Corps. Marines are Marines regardless of MOS or unit affiliation.

zealott said...

As for patches, people far more experienced than I have decided that it's not a bad idea, but I could pretty much care less either way. Mostly, I think achievement badges just give some incentive for people to go to a school that has nothing to do with their MOS (like a tanker with an airborne badge).

My mistake on the size of a division, I was thinking size of army corps. Army corps don't usually have a patch so that was pretty much a snafu on my part.

In the Army, the remfs (rear eschelon mother fuckers) think they have basic infantry skills, but they don't. Their idea of being out in the field is wandering around out in the wilderness most of the day, having a barbecue in the evening and going to bed at 2100 in a gp-small on a cot and waking up at 0600. That's why when we to out as opfor, we attack at 0530 -- catch 'em with their pants down every time.